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New Post! Oct 30, 2009 @ 13:06:30#1
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Remember that life changing iceberg? While I uncovered the whole thing, and it turned out to be a life changing and life saving iceberg. Each day, I choose to save a life, simply through what I eat.

I would never think of eating him, so why would I eat another of his kind?

We are not better then them, that doesnt even matter anymore. Were just different.

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New Post! Oct 30, 2009 @ 13:14:07#3
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rogy said:

link [www.youtube.com]

Remember that life changing iceberg? While I uncovered the whole thing, and it turned out to be a life changing and life saving iceberg. Each day, I choose to save a life, simply through what I eat.

I would never think of eating him, so why would I eat another of his kind?

We are not better then them, that doesnt even matter anymore. Were just different.



That video is so cheesy it makes me wince...

Not all things are conscious. Not everything you encounter deserves respect, no matter how much it resembles a human. It's consciousness is the important consideration.



...and lolcats must die.

"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative." - J.S. Mill
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buffalobill90 said:

That video is so cheesy it makes me wince...

Not all things are conscious. Not everything you encounter deserves respect, no matter how much it resembles a human. It's consciousness is the important consideration.



It is interesting that you mention "things." The animal rights philosopher Gary Francione's latest book (200 is called Animals as Persons: link [www.abolitionistapproach.com] and he points out in it (he is a law professor) that, in law, nonhuman animals are legal things. Corporations may be regarded as persons in law but animals are things.

The animal rights position would situate nonhumans on the person side of the person/thing divide since it is based on defending all animals (including human ones) who are sentient.


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New Post! Oct 30, 2009 @ 15:03:10#5
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rogy said:

It is interesting that you mention "things." The animal rights philosopher Gary Francione's latest book (200 is called Animals as Persons: link [www.abolitionistapproach.com] and he points out in it (he is a law professor) that, in law, nonhuman animals are legal things. Corporations may be regarded as persons in law but animals are things.

The animal rights position would situate nonhumans on the person side of the person/thing divide since it is based on defending all animals (including human ones) who are sentient.


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Not all non-human animals are sentient.



...and lolcats must die.

"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative." - J.S. Mill
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New Post! Oct 30, 2009 @ 15:32:59#6
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buffalobill90 said:

Not all non-human animals are sentient.


Very true - there has always been this grey area in animal rights thinking due to this.

One theorist, Joan Dunayer, includes all insects as sentient beings, whereas many animal advocates do not.


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