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the poem Disabled, as well as two of his other poems? Make close refrence to imagery, language and verse form.

This is a question i really dont get! I've started but id love for anyone to help me, like bullet points or whatever?
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In Disabled, I think he's trying to say that life is going on as normal around the maimed soldier at home and he's so changed that nothing will ever be the same for him again. He also seems to wonder why he thought he had to join up, was it worth the loss to him and those that died. The whole tone of the poem is one of regret and nostalgia. At one point, talking about 'jewelled hilts' and 'esprit de corps', he gives the impression that before young soldiers arrived at the front and faced the reality of war, they were seduced by the idea of honour, pride and manliness. The last couple of verses see the soldier pitied and helpless, dependent on others for help for the remainder of his life.




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Ahhhh i'm doing the same course.

Just analyse the language and form of Disabled (about 50% of your essay), and maybe do Anthem for Doomed Youth and Mental Cases for the others, just pick out the quotes that show the effect it has on the soldiers.




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'Futility' is a good example too. The title sums it up.




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Oh yeah futility. Actually this is a pretty open question. Maybe you could also use the show, or the esposure? And the first stanza of Dulche is probably pure gold for this question.




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Michael718 said:

Oh yeah futility. Actually this is a pretty open question. Maybe you could also use the show, or the esposure? And the first stanza of Dulche is probably pure gold for this question.



That would be a good one. There's very effective visual imagery in it.



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Verse - Owen was famous for using par-rhyme with heavy consonance in his poetry. He was one of the first to start experimenting with this and possibly the one that experimented with this type of rhyme more than anyone during that time.

Owen was highly influenced by Keats, his favorite poet and often wrote Keatsian style poetry, especially his earlier poetry where he even refers to Keats in his poetry. Of course that is nothing compared to his poetry in his later years of when he went to war. His early poetry was very soft, flowing, lyrical of light hearthed subjects. His war poetry was highly influenced by Sassoon when he spent his hospitalization with him. Sassoon encouraged Owen to write his feelings exactly, write his experience down in a realistic way. He introduced Owen to Freudian psychology who Sassoon was influenced by. Sassoon encouraged Owen to write what he experienced in dreams that many solders are haunted by.

As far as imagery etc...Owen's later poetry...the ones dealing with war have very similar themes you can pick up on. Owen hated war, he never wanted to be a solider but he did it out of duty to his country and that was pretty much it. He felt sorry for the young ones that though of war as glorious thing, as patriotic, as an honor because the reality of war is that its not that. He disliked the mourning of soldiers too because with war, it is inevitable that you will die, and instead of morning the dead you should be enjoying the living.

His imagery is very real and on target, he wrote of blood, guts, guns, bombs in a real way as Sassoon other than his mother was his greatest influence. He often uses the real imagery as metaphors for funerals and what the family members outside of war are feeling.

He's one of my favorite. I can go on and on.




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Verse - Owen was famous for using par-rhyme with heavy consonance in his poetry. He was one of the first to start experimenting with this and possibly the one that experimented with this type of rhyme more than anyone during that time.

Owen was highly influenced by Keats, his favorite poet and often wrote Keatsian style poetry, especially his earlier poetry where he even refers to Keats in his poetry. Of course that is nothing compared to his poetry in his later year poetry of when he went to war. His early poetry was very soft, flowing, lyrical of light earthed subjects. His war poetry was highly influenced by Sassoon when he spent his hospitalization with him. Sassoon encouraged Owen to write his feelings exactly, write his experience down in a realistic way. He introduced Owen to Freudian psychology who Sassoon was influenced by. Sassoon encouraged Owen to write what he experienced in dreams that many solders are haunted by.

As far as imagery etc...Owen's later poetry...the ones dealing with war have very similar themes you can pick up on. Owen hated war, he never wanted to be a solider but he did it out of duty to his country and that was pretty much it. He felt sorry for the young ones that though of war as glorious thing, as patriotic, as an honor because the reality of war is that its not that. He disliked the morning of soldiers too because with war, it is inevitable that you will die, and instead of morning the dead you should be enjoying the living.

His imagery is very real and on target, he wrote of blood, guts, guns, bombs in a real way as Sassoon other than his month was his greatest influence. He often uses the real imagery as metaphors for funerals and what the family members outside of war are feeling.

He's one of my favorite. I can go on and on.



I love his poetry. Have you ever heard 'Futility' sung by The Ravishing Beauties? They music that accompanied the poem suited the nature of the poem beautifully.



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claudibee said:

I love his poetry. Have you ever heard 'Futility' sung by The Ravishing Beauties? They music that accompanied the poem suited the nature of the poem beautifully.



I'v read Futility but haven't heard the poem sung by them. Though there are those scary videos of the Owen reading his poetry on youtube that i like. Its owen who's reciting his poetry but they don't have the video recording, just the sound so the person who did the video put a black and white image of Owen and morphed his mouth like he's saying the words.

its scary to look at, but the sounds beautiful. lol



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boobagins said:

I'v read Futility but haven't heard the poem sung by them. Though there are those scary videos of the Owen reading his poetry on youtube that i like. Its owen who's reciting his poetry but they don't have the video recording, just the sound so the person who did the video put a black and white image of Owen and morphed his mouth like he's saying the words.

its scary to look at, but the sounds beautiful. lol



I must have a look. Thanks for that.



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