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New Post! May 27, 2009 @ 20:24:29#48
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rainbowz09 said:

thanx thats a big help

Rainbowz09. I hope this is not the case where you are from. Some places fault the victim- even to the extreme of punishing of even killing the victim. My thoughts and prayers to anyone molested or raped.
If you or someone you know has been. Be a good listener and have their back. They do not need to be further traumitized. Anyone here with a good link or group for someone in the middle east?
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New Post! Jun 05, 2009 @ 00:04:59#49
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I would have to agree with Trust and Rebel on this one. I have survived being both molested and raped. I was not believed by my mother either. That unfortunately happens in situations like this. There is no way a person can just "get over it, or deal with it" and go on with their lives. Your trust is forever broken, your innocense is shattered, and one of the most private choices that a person has, is taken away. I experienced this between the ages of 12-17 and I still have emotional problems and trust issues. Like so many others, I dealt with this horrible experience alone. I felt too ashamed and was too scared to face my attacker. I was just left with the mental and physical scars and felt so alone. These are both terrible and life changing events. The physical scars are much easier to heal. Its the mental factors that tend to stay with a person. There is no way a person can just get on with their life as if it never happened. Trust me...I have tried.

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New Post! Jun 05, 2009 @ 00:44:55#50
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I'm sorry! I hope that you have had a wonderful life since then and an even better future!

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New Post! Jun 05, 2009 @ 06:39:57#51
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rainbowz09 said:

is molestation somehow same as rape coz in both the victim is sexually abuse



cajunforjesus said:

I associate molestation with kids I think. And rape is adults.



Rape is not exclusively for adults, it can happen unfortunately for kids as well



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New Post! Jun 05, 2009 @ 23:29:50#52
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Rape is a power thing. Often the sex is secondary. Mean people suck.

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New Post! Jul 11, 2009 @ 17:30:42#53
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rainbowz09 said:

is molestation somehow same as rape coz in both the victim is sexually abuse


Not really, it's possible for a young impressionable teenager to be willingly molested, but not raped.

Rape is completely violent and always by force.
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New Post! Jul 11, 2009 @ 21:56:53#54
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Molestation and sexual assault are legally defined in different ways but pretty much are on the same page as each other.

Adults can be molested, usually it is women but using the legal term molestaion, it refers to child molestation. It is more of a broad term where sexual assault is more specific a term. At least in my dealings.

Molestation refers to any kind of sexual contact. This includes touching in private places, showing a child porn, masterbating in front of a child but not touching that child etc. It does not just mean penetrating a child. It is general term for all sexual contact with the child. Even children can molest another child.

Sexual assault is a specific term meant to mean the actual unwanted penetration of a person. It is usually meant for adult persons who have had another adult pentrate them either in the vagina or rectum. But women can be sexually assaulted by a minor.

It is a bit confusing since they are so similar. But the big difference is any sexual contact with a child vs penetrating a child or woman.

I would like to clear up a few things. Sexual assault is mostly about control and having the power over the victim. However, not all sexual assaults are about power and not all are violent. It is based on the needs of the person committing the act. There have been those who commit sexual assault who think they are on a date and are having actual consenting sex with a female. This type of assault is usually done by someone with more of a mental illness but it does happen. Some men who commit sexual assault ask the victim, how it was and if they were good after the crime. They need reassurance.

Not all women who are assaulted are hurt.

It is the worst kind of crime, in my opinion, but there are different reasons and not each is the same.




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New Post! Sep 06, 2009 @ 17:55:33#55
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Having read through this thread I feel compelled to make a comment and speaking from experience I will say this -- it's a costly thing to even try to mention, never mind put in print.

1. It is impossible for anyone to try to carry on with life as if nothing ever happened after an experience of molestation or rape.

2. It is very difficult to try mention such things to your own, due to fear of not being believed or being looked on being the cause of it.

3. Looking back, I know well now, that I was not to blame, I did not ask for such, neither try encourage such -- however, it does not ease the pain of hurt -- feeling of shame, filth and guilt.

4. I was interfered with as a child, later when a teenager, and then as an adult. Each case was completely different and while the last was the most severe, it hasn't left any deeper marks than the first, because all affect ones mind and thoughts and the scars remain for life.

5. Counselling is good, especially if can get to the place of trust with an understanding caring individual -- however, certain issues will keep recurring.

Never, ever, try tell someone to "Forget about it and get on with life." Such is not possible andit's only a person who knows nothing about such can utter those words, which are actually most hurtful and offensive to the victim involved.




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New Post! Sep 08, 2009 @ 00:42:54#56
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We should never forget to show compassion and the need to understand the victims. We should all be concerned in seeing that this does not occur in our families or community.
Too often it is a family members, friend, or authority figure that is the evil beast within our society.

My heart and thoughts to the far far too many that have to live with this.

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New Post! Sep 10, 2009 @ 22:41:14#57
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shinobinoz said:

We should never forget to show compassion and the need to understand the victims. We should all be concerned in seeing that this does not occur in our families or community.
Too often it is a family members, friend, or authority figure that is the evil beast within our society.

My heart and thoughts to the far far too many that have to live with this.


Now there's a first. I agreed with Shino.
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New Post! Sep 10, 2009 @ 23:10:47#58
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rainbowz09 said:

is molestation somehow same as rape coz in both the victim is sexually abuse



No there very different.

Molestation is when trust is abused and the person being molested has yet to learn that it wrong and not normal.

Rape is when both perpatraitor and victim know it's wrong and the perp has to force himself on his victim.
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New Post! Sep 10, 2009 @ 23:12:59#59
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I believe the definition of rape is being penetrated by anything against your will not neccesarily a penis. So if you insert a finger it's rape if the other person has not consented.




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New Post! Sep 10, 2009 @ 23:19:08#60
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kaydoh said:

I believe the definition of rape is being penetrated by anything against your will not neccesarily a penis. So if you insert a finger it's rape if the other person has not consented.



Very true and as far as im concerned any forced sexual contact penitration or no is a form of rape.

Even kissing somone against there will.
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New Post! Sep 11, 2009 @ 01:07:34#61
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Charlemagne said:

Now there's a first. I agreed with Shino.



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New Post! Oct 14, 2009 @ 05:10:10#60
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a few weeks ago there was this little 6 year old girl that was kidnapped on her way over to her friends house and they found bottomless covered in blood and beat up and she gone for hours and her parents were not even worried about where she was at or anything but i guess they found out the kid that took her was like 15 and he tried to have sex with her but he couldnt fit it in there so he just beat her up and tried choking her and they said she was barely cohearant she wasnt talking at all when they found her.
but i guess they found him and he was sentenced for it




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