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New Post! Nov 15, 2008 @ 23:22:58#1
Xilmwa

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Something I've noticed that *nix can do that Windows can't is that you can install, say Linux, on to a hard drive in one computer, pull it out, and put it into another, and it will still work fine.

Why is this?

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New Post! Nov 15, 2008 @ 23:42:18#2
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It sometimes works in Windows. It works all the time if you simply run sysprep before you remove the drive.

It usually doesn't work in Linux, though, btw. And AFAIK there's no Linux sysprep equivalent that will basically guarantee that it'll work.

This only applies to the boot drive of course.

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New Post! Nov 16, 2008 @ 00:30:07#3
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Cool. I didn't know that.

Thing about Linux which got me to asking this is stuff like Live CDs, and others that are read/write like Mandriva Flash.

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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 16:56:27#4
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Edit, trying to stay on topic as much as poss.

I don't like the idea that I have to hunt for specific peripherals to be compatible with *nix. For instance, I'd probably either have to pay a lot more or severely limit my choices if it came to finding a good digital camera or camcorder that had software for *nix. Prove me wrong, please.

jonnythan said:

It sometimes works in Windows. It works all the time if you simply run sysprep before you remove the drive.

It usually doesn't work in Linux, though, btw. And AFAIK there's no Linux sysprep equivalent that will basically guarantee that it'll work.

This only applies to the boot drive of course.

I tried to do this before. Can you help me migrate my windows install to a more stable hdd? I have everything on a 80 gig 5400 rpm and want to move it to a 200 gig 7200 rpm. I tried ghosting and windows backup, but neither worked at all.
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Edited: November 21, 2008 @ 16:59
New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 16:59:08#5
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More stable? What makes you think your HDD is the root of a stability issue?

In any case, I'd recommend that you simply install the new drive into the computer and install a fresh copy of Windows onto it. Then add your old HD as a second hard drive and copy any important things off it.

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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 17:00:28#6
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jonnythan said:

More stable? What makes you think your HDD is the root of a stability issue?

In any case, I'd recommend that you simply install the new drive into the computer and install a fresh copy of Windows onto it. Then add your old HD as a second hard drive and copy any important things off it.

Bad sectors I've always had program issues, and I don't want to hunt for possibly lost install cds.
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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 17:02:24#7
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Well if you have too many bad sectors, and the corrupted data is causing stability problems, you will not be able to copy the data off with any integrity.

If that data is corrupted, it's corrupted.

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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 17:21:37#8
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jonnythan said:

Well if you have too many bad sectors, and the corrupted data is causing stability problems, you will not be able to copy the data off with any integrity.

If that data is corrupted, it's corrupted.

Well is there a good free defrag tool that I can use then? My 2nd partition on the older drive always restarts windows at a certain point when I try to defrag it - I've basically stopped using it at all for any reason.
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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 17:22:45#9
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A bad sector is a sector that is physically damaged and unrecoverable. No defrag utility can possibly recover the data.

The data that was there is simply gone.

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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 22:07:50#10
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ybom said:

Edit, trying to stay on topic as much as poss.

I don't like the idea that I have to hunt for specific peripherals to be compatible with *nix. For instance, I'd probably either have to pay a lot more or severely limit my choices if it came to finding a good digital camera or camcorder that had software for *nix. Prove me wrong, please.


I tried to do this before. Can you help me migrate my windows install to a more stable hdd? I have everything on a 80 gig 5400 rpm and want to move it to a 200 gig 7200 rpm. I tried ghosting and windows backup, but neither worked at all.


Don't rely on what the box says. Contrary to popular belief, just because it doesn't say it is compatible doesn't mean it isn't.

Although, it was pretty hilarious when I saw that box that said "Compatible with Linux version 8 and higher"
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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 22:36:24#11
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ybom said:

Edit, trying to stay on topic as much as poss.

I don't like the idea that I have to hunt for specific peripherals to be compatible with *nix. For instance, I'd probably either have to pay a lot more or severely limit my choices if it came to finding a good digital camera or camcorder that had software for *nix. Prove me wrong, please.



You'd be hard pressed to find a digital camera or camcorder that didn't work with Linux, actually.
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New Post! Nov 21, 2008 @ 22:37:52#12
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Right. Has more to do with the fact that the manufacturer doesn't support Linux, however, the millions of worldwide developers, and even just normal users who can, make drivers for stuff like that.

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I've been using the soft at www_pathoolong_com that resolves the long file name & path issue and deletes locked files.

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