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Jun 20, 2009 @ 17:48:09

crazychica

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Why don't we ever hear more about this guy? Famous for burning the cakes he was supposed to be watching, Alfred is credited with being the first King of England, defeating the Danes and founding the Royal Navy. He also placed huge importance on learning. Here\'s the reader's digest version but long story short, he rocked. We should be hearing more about him.

"What about the world today
What about the place that we call home
We' ve never been so many
And we've never been so alone...."

Jun 20, 2009 @ 18:53:16

trillian

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you should read bernard cornwell and you will see how not so great alfred really was. he sounds like a major tosser to me.

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Jun 20, 2009 @ 18:59:55

crazychica

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trillian said:

you should read bernard cornwell and you will see how not so great alfred really was. he sounds like a major tosser to me.

Well he sounds pretty good. I read a historical fiction based on his story. It did mention a lot of the bad stuff like when people starved because all the men were at war and couldn't grow food. In fact, one of the main characters lost her children to hunger in the story but accepts that it was out of necessity. He saved a large portion of England from becoming Danish territory, established proper fortified towns and separated the population into "fyrds" so that every man knew what he had to do in case of war, fight or continue with the fields.

"What about the world today
What about the place that we call home
We' ve never been so many
And we've never been so alone...."

Jun 20, 2009 @ 19:01:04

crazychica

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Plus, there's no way he could be any worse than his brother, Aethelbald. Aethelbald forced his step-mother to marry him, kept his younger brothers under guard and ruled by force.

"What about the world today
What about the place that we call home
We' ve never been so many
And we've never been so alone...."

Jun 20, 2009 @ 19:22:48

trillian

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alfred was not the great warrier everyone made him out to be. he used people to fight for him and get the land and titles he gave himself.
sorry, but i am not an alfred fan

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Jun 20, 2009 @ 19:26:33

crazychica

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trillian said:

alfred was not the great warrier everyone made him out to be. he used people to fight for him and get the land and titles he gave himself.
sorry, but i am not an alfred fan

He did go out and fight. He was forced to spend a winter in an abandoned hunting lodge until springtime when he could raise an army because the Danes attacked in winter, knowing that people in England traditionally fought only in summer. He gathered an army and kicked Guthram's ass.

"What about the world today
What about the place that we call home
We' ve never been so many
And we've never been so alone...."

Jun 20, 2009 @ 19:28:24

trillian

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crazychica said:

He did go out and fight. He was forced to spend a winter in an abandoned hunting lodge until springtime when he could raise an army because the Danes attacked in winter, knowing that people in England traditionally fought only in summer. He gathered an army and kicked Guthram's ass.

you are not going to convince me. my opinion of alfred is not the same as yours. i dont see him as the same kinght in shing armour that you do.

can't stop the spirits when they need you
this life is more than just a read thru

Jun 20, 2009 @ 20:54:32

crazychica

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Who said that I see him as a knight in shining armour? I already admitted that he made mistakes, however he did go some way to rectifying them. That makes him simply human.

"What about the world today
What about the place that we call home
We' ve never been so many
And we've never been so alone...."

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