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>> What would it be like if we (Americans) didn't get our independence?
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Old Post! Jun 10, 2009 @ 22:51:36#1
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Why did we do it in the first place? Was it THAT bad?

And what do you think our live's would be like if we hadn't?

I'm going into APUSH (AP US History) next year, and I would just like some input.




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Old Post! Jun 10, 2009 @ 22:58:22#2
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We did it because of arbitrary taxation by King George,the tea tax being the final straw so to speak.I think sooner or later it would have happened anyway because ALL the people came here from ALL the other countries of the world were the misfits and underdogs of their countries.Having tasted freedom here, they would never settle for anything less.




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Old Post! Jun 10, 2009 @ 23:52:10#3
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I guess it was cause everyone got sick of paying tax to people who were thousands of miles away.




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Old Post! Jun 11, 2009 @ 00:05:44#4
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alexkidd said:

I guess it was cause everyone got sick of paying tax to people who were thousands of miles away.


Well we're still dealing with that. Only DC just 7-10 miles away from me.



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Old Post! Jul 17, 2009 @ 15:48:20#5
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Kristy69 said:

Why did we do it in the first place? Was it THAT bad?

And what do you think our live's would be like if we hadn't?

I'm going into APUSH (AP US History) next year, and I would just like some input.


Look to the North. We could be an independent comonwealth of Great Britain.



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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 02:53:48#6
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I did a paper on this topic years ago in a college history class, speculating on what would have happened if there was no American Revolution.

One point is that there would have been no expansion westward past the original thirteen colonies, since the British were against that.

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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 03:03:06#7
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Kristy69 said:

Why did we do it in the first place? Was it THAT bad?

And what do you think our live's would be like if we hadn't?

I'm going into APUSH (AP US History) next year, and I would just like some input.


Not that it's really on topic Kristy. I'm not a massive expert on US history. However, I've read enough information to convince me that if the first settlers had done it a 100 years or so earlier, that you all would be speaking either a different language, or at least a dialect that would trouble the average modern English speaker.

That's only my speculation though.



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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 03:03:49#8
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mr_ash said:

Not that it's really on topic Kristy. I'm not a massive expert on US history. However, I've read enough information to convince me that if the first settlers had done it a 100 years or so earlier, that you all would be speaking either a different language, or at least a dialect that would trouble the average modern English speaker.

That's only my speculation though.


That's interesting, though.



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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 03:10:13#9
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Kristy69 said:

That's interesting, though.


You wouldn't say that if you were speaking French




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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 03:15:55#10
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Kristy69 said:

That's interesting, though.


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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 03:28:18#11
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Kristy69 said:

Why did we do it in the first place? Was it THAT bad?

And what do you think our live's would be like if we hadn't?

I'm going into APUSH (AP US History) next year, and I would just like some input.


I am not going to answer your questions , I just want to point out that ,
We didn't 'get' our freedom , we won our freedom . The word 'get' makes it sound like someone went to walmart and picked it up for us. While using the correct word ' won' makes it plain that it was fought for in a war that was hard won and carried a heavy price.



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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 03:42:20#12
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iwannano said:

I am not going to answer your questions , I just want to point out that ,
We didn't 'get' our freedom , we won our freedom . The word 'get' makes it sound like someone went to walmart and picked it up for us. While using the correct word ' won' makes it plain that it was fought for in a war that was hard won and carried a heavy price.


You sound like an expert.

It probably carried a heavy price [on both sides], and probably not that necessary too.

So many past leaders come out with beautiful quotations.

I'd wager that a pleasant chat and a beer or spliff and things could have been worked out, causing far less loss of life.



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Old Post! Jul 25, 2009 @ 13:48:42#13
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iwannano said:

I am not going to answer your questions , I just want to point out that ,
We didn't 'get' our freedom , we won our freedom . The word 'get' makes it sound like someone went to walmart and picked it up for us. While using the correct word ' won' makes it plain that it was fought for in a war that was hard won and carried a heavy price.


Got, won, same thing.
Doesn't matter, we have it.
I know the sacrifice, I'm thankful.



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Old Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 15:47:19#14
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Being a Brit myself i believe the USA would have done just as well but would be a safer place as Guns would not be carried.
Looking back on what happened from a British perspective we spent a fortune setteling and fighting wars against Spain, France plus the Indians for this Land we only asked that the americans paid a fair share for this.

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Old Post! Jul 31, 2009 @ 16:21:15#15
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newmexicodan said:

We did it because of arbitrary taxation by King George,the tea tax being the final straw so to speak.I think sooner or later it would have happened anyway because ALL the people came here from ALL the other countries of the world were the misfits and underdogs of their countries.Having tasted freedom here, they would never settle for anything less.



When you delve right into it, you'll find the tax angle is a very loose fitting one. One that a small number of people pursued for their own ends and not in any interest of a greater freedom or idiology.

Conversely, the British government made some seriously bad choices and only handed the afore mentioned small number of dubious people trump cards.
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