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New Post! Apr 25, 2008 @ 21:36:28#1
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A new low for British animal welfarism...

"Animal welfare campaigners say it's time to welcome British veal back onto the plate".

link [www.channel4.com]

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New Post! Apr 25, 2008 @ 22:22:53#2
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I think it should be made known that veal as a meat is actually very tasty.
It is the manner in which the animals are kept that stops me from eating it. They are the cow equivalent of battery chickens and people regularly protest against this.

My parents live on a farm where we regularly eat our livestock and we know that the animals have led free, peaceful and happy lives. If the same could be said for veal then amybe more people would feel comfortable eating it.

At the end of the day everything in the supermarket once had legs and walked around, they don't just appear one day vaccuum packed. I have never eated veal personally because my parents were against it ever since i can remember and i genuinely do not know how old the calves are when they are killed.

I for one will certainly never eat it until i know that the animals are being treated fairly during their short lives and never if my dad won't as he is one of the biggest animal lovers i know, if he won't eat it then neither shall i. Ever!!


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New Post! Apr 26, 2008 @ 21:30:22#3
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basha said:
I think it should be made known that veal as a meat is actually very tasty.
It is the manner in which the animals are kept that stops me from eating it. They are the cow equivalent of battery chickens and people regularly protest against this.

My parents live on a farm where we regularly eat our livestock and we know that the animals have led free, peaceful and happy lives. If the same could be said for veal then amybe more people would feel comfortable eating it.

At the end of the day everything in the supermarket once had legs and walked around, they don't just appear one day vaccuum packed. I have never eated veal personally because my parents were against it ever since i can remember and i genuinely do not know how old the calves are when they are killed.

I for one will certainly never eat it until i know that the animals are being treated fairly during their short lives and never if my dad won't as he is one of the biggest animal lovers i know, if he won't eat it then neither shall i. Ever!!



Hi,

Can you clarify a couple of things? You say your "livestock" have led "free, peaceful and happy lives". In what sense are they free?

Secondly, can we eat humans who have led similar lives?

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New Post! Apr 26, 2008 @ 21:32:28#4
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rogy said:
Hi,

Can you clarify a couple of things? You say your "livestock" have led "free, peaceful and happy lives". In what sense are they free?

Secondly, can we eat humans who have led similar lives?

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Firstly, livestock are free in the sense they are not kept in cruel conditions, are treated well and fed well.

Secondly eating another human is illegal and last time i checked eating a cow or a pig was fine.




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New Post! Apr 27, 2008 @ 00:49:47#5
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angelcake said:
Firstly, livestock are free in the sense they are not kept in cruel conditions, are treated well and fed well.

Secondly eating another human is illegal and last time i checked eating a cow or a pig was fine.



1st: so they are not actually free then.

2nd: clearly I was speaking morally rather than legally - therefore, can it
be justified as an ethical matter in those circumstances? Obviously most people will answer that it would still be wrong to eat other humans even if they were humanely treated. The animal rights question therefore is based on asking what morally relevant differences there are between human animals and nonhuman ones which sanction our use of the latter.

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