The Arrogance of Man

@Tar Said

I think omnipotence means that he doesn't need anything, including emotional needs. If something is omnipotent, it has all power and can thus produce all it needs. If god was omnipotent and needed emotional help, he could create the end result (happiness for instance) instead of creating the tools required to create his happiness (humans). This is taking into consideration that an omnipotent entity would "need" anything at all. Why would god need anything? Take your god of truth pantheism. Does truth need emotional support? No. Does truth need worship? No. Truth exists and will continue to exist regardless of humanity. That makes truth more feasible as an omnipotent power than the abrahamic god who is " a jealous god, angry god" etc. God should not need. If god needs, he is not omnipotent. If got is anthropomorphizeable then either our interpretation is wrong, or he is not omnipotent. Either way, the application of the abrahmic god is fruitless and self defeating as well as arrogant and egocentric.



Only because the OP stated the Biblical one although I will admit, she directed it towards the "new bible guys" which I am only 1/3 true to. I'm not "new" nor am I a "biblical" although I am a guy

@Erimitus Said

What is truth? Please

@Tar Said

Hard to explain really. Our perception of existence is truth to us, but truth is the actual existence of the thing in and of itself, if it exists at all. TPT was more up on explaining what it meant honestly. Confused the hell out of me

@Erimitus Said

I too am confused.

@Tar Said

Here is the link to our conversation about the Pantheistic truth "god" concept Link to Truth Pantheist

@Erimitus Said

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@chisa96 Said

This is something that I like to ask a variety of people, and I haven't asked it of our newest bible guys here, so I'm curious as to how they would answer; it always varies between people, and the answers are generally rather interesting.

Anyway...

Don't you find the biblical version of god's relationship with man just a teensy bit arrogant? It's basically (very basically) saying that our little species is so worthy of recognition that we are favored by god, that not only are we so worthy that he take a particular interest in our individual lives, but we are so special that we are actually the likeness of god himself.

Mankind is made in the image of the creator of everything.

It's an idea that I've never been able to get behind. It screams to me of beliefs formed when mankind was ignorant of anything greater than earth, when earth was the center of everything and we were the rulers of earth.

In reality though, we are not significant even within the history of earth, let alone the universe and beyond. We are even less significant in the grand scheme of the universe than ants in the scheme of people's lives, and to assume that a god who created everything would particularly care about our one little species, that the species is actually made in his own image... It's arrogant, to put it very lightly. We are not that important, just that obsessed with ourselves.

@Tar Said

awe at him... so god has vanity? My favorite sin why do christians like to anthropomorphize god, vices and all? I'm a jealous god, I'm an angry god, I'm a loving god... etc.?

@Erimitus Said

What is truth? Please

@MadCornishBiker Said

Truth is that which is real, that which exists in reality rather than imagination.

@ThePainefulTruth Said

Imagination is Truth as well. It's subjective Truth, but Truth nonetheless, Truth we can communicate, Truth that might possibly be fashioned into an objective reality. To say that imagination is not Truth is to say there is no Truth in Art. Imagination is not a lie, and a lie is the only non-Truth.

@MadCornishBiker Said

No, imagination is simply that, Imagination, and truth is not and cannot be subjective. Only our perception of it is subjective, our acceptance or denial of it.

@ThePainefulTruth Said

I have an idea in my head, say me and Emma Stone being an item. Yes, that idea has a 0% chance of ever being a reality, but the idea is still there. Objective and subjective Truth both exist, just in their own realms, like knowledge and art respectively.....while they blend in other aspects, like justice.....and love.

@Reviso Said

Is that a painful truth; this is the old dispute between Galileo and Keppler, as if there was one then? Scientists imaginatively were looking at the sky. The imagination in the modern day Man interpretation is to now simply look at Man Imagining. Man is not so arrogant that way in history. He is arrogant for the 20th century epistemology. And besides we've found the environmental threat to the 'Murphy's Law' workability of engineering in the Growth Economy.

@futilevoice Said

Are you sure your not Gary Busse?